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	<title>Comments on: An Untitled Post About Books (Which I Suppose is A Title of Sorts, Just Not a Very Good One)</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Philip Yurchuk</title>
		<link>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Yurchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 09:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see what you're saying. Overall, I think I'm pretty good at finding books that make you appear smart by being able to apply their ideas to good effect. That's what I was meant by books that give you an advantage. I'd also add blogs to this. The best bloggers are excellent sources of new ideas, and I like collecting new ideas. You never know when you might need one.

However, I was really talking about a set of criteria for books that (as you clarified) impress people merely by sitting on your bookshelf or your table at Peet's Coffee. Of course, I'm not saying I'd do this, but I think it would be really amusing to read. 

Now that I think of it, though, you have to determine which audience you're trying to impress. And you might have to go a step further. I imagine lit snobs won't be impressed by your reading of a classic - you have to be re-re-reading it. For your post, I was pretty much thinking of how one could impress writers or English majors.

Of course frequently the books that impress people are also the ones that make you smarter, but nobody gets around to reading. These are books that practitioners love to quote from, often because they want you to know they read them (and you didn’t). 

In a way, it's like our "Classic Movie Night At Larry's". Larry came up with this so we'd watch the classic movies that everyone talks about, but nobody's actually seen. Citizen Cane. The Graduate. Rear Window. Having these movies on your DVD collection impresses people because even self-proclaimed film buffs often don't watch classics. But the real purpose for us was film education and connecting the dots. It was cool to see just how often pop culture references those classics.

Either way, I freely admit to flaunting books when I'm reading in public. I'm not trying to look smart - I’m trolling for like-minded individuals. Likewise, if I saw some cute girl reading Neuromancer, it doesn't matter if it's her first time reading it, I'm going to strike up a conversation with her. Perhaps leading with, "Will you marry me?" :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you&#8217;re saying. Overall, I think I&#8217;m pretty good at finding books that make you appear smart by being able to apply their ideas to good effect. That&#8217;s what I was meant by books that give you an advantage. I&#8217;d also add blogs to this. The best bloggers are excellent sources of new ideas, and I like collecting new ideas. You never know when you might need one.</p>
<p>However, I was really talking about a set of criteria for books that (as you clarified) impress people merely by sitting on your bookshelf or your table at Peet&#8217;s Coffee. Of course, I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;d do this, but I think it would be really amusing to read. </p>
<p>Now that I think of it, though, you have to determine which audience you&#8217;re trying to impress. And you might have to go a step further. I imagine lit snobs won&#8217;t be impressed by your reading of a classic - you have to be re-re-reading it. For your post, I was pretty much thinking of how one could impress writers or English majors.</p>
<p>Of course frequently the books that impress people are also the ones that make you smarter, but nobody gets around to reading. These are books that practitioners love to quote from, often because they want you to know they read them (and you didn’t). </p>
<p>In a way, it&#8217;s like our &#8220;Classic Movie Night At Larry&#8217;s&#8221;. Larry came up with this so we&#8217;d watch the classic movies that everyone talks about, but nobody&#8217;s actually seen. Citizen Cane. The Graduate. Rear Window. Having these movies on your DVD collection impresses people because even self-proclaimed film buffs often don&#8217;t watch classics. But the real purpose for us was film education and connecting the dots. It was cool to see just how often pop culture references those classics.</p>
<p>Either way, I freely admit to flaunting books when I&#8217;m reading in public. I&#8217;m not trying to look smart - I’m trolling for like-minded individuals. Likewise, if I saw some cute girl reading Neuromancer, it doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s her first time reading it, I&#8217;m going to strike up a conversation with her. Perhaps leading with, &#8220;Will you marry me?&#8221; <img src='http://paulbogan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me think on this one. I think that whether you realize it or not, you're actually talking about two posts. One would be the books that'd actually make you smarter (or somehow improve your lot, without being "self-improvement"), and the other would be books that'd just be there to impress people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me think on this one. I think that whether you realize it or not, you&#8217;re actually talking about two posts. One would be the books that&#8217;d actually make you smarter (or somehow improve your lot, without being &#8220;self-improvement&#8221;), and the other would be books that&#8217;d just be there to impress people.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Yurchuk</title>
		<link>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Yurchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-122</guid>
		<description>That's an interesting question. The part I find interesting is that there are books I found extremely useful, but don't want everyone to read them because I enjoy the advantages their knowledge gives me. I don't want an even playing field. To be clear, I'd want friends (and family, the economically disadvantaged, etc.) to read them, but not everyone. However, there are probably a few books that would benefit everyone if we all read them.

The first is Getting to Yes, a book on negotiation. You might first think negotiation is a skill you'd want to keep for yourself, but this is essentially a book on fair dealing. It's teaches people to come to an agreement about value using logic and evidence. So the more people read it, the more "fair" life becomes.

After that, it's tough. I think you have to work backwards from the social values you want to instill in the populous. For example, let's start with "war is bad (or shouldn't be entered into without due diligence)". I think everyone should see the documentary "The Fog of War - Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara". The parallels to the war in Iraq, esp. with regard to misunderstanding the enemy, are striking.

You can continue like this until you've educated society as you like. 

But I still want to read your post on how to pick books that make you look smart :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting question. The part I find interesting is that there are books I found extremely useful, but don&#8217;t want everyone to read them because I enjoy the advantages their knowledge gives me. I don&#8217;t want an even playing field. To be clear, I&#8217;d want friends (and family, the economically disadvantaged, etc.) to read them, but not everyone. However, there are probably a few books that would benefit everyone if we all read them.</p>
<p>The first is Getting to Yes, a book on negotiation. You might first think negotiation is a skill you&#8217;d want to keep for yourself, but this is essentially a book on fair dealing. It&#8217;s teaches people to come to an agreement about value using logic and evidence. So the more people read it, the more &#8220;fair&#8221; life becomes.</p>
<p>After that, it&#8217;s tough. I think you have to work backwards from the social values you want to instill in the populous. For example, let&#8217;s start with &#8220;war is bad (or shouldn&#8217;t be entered into without due diligence)&#8221;. I think everyone should see the documentary &#8220;The Fog of War - Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara&#8221;. The parallels to the war in Iraq, esp. with regard to misunderstanding the enemy, are striking.</p>
<p>You can continue like this until you&#8217;ve educated society as you like. </p>
<p>But I still want to read your post on how to pick books that make you look smart <img src='http://paulbogan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-121</guid>
		<description>Here's a thought: in your own opinion, what are five-ten books everybody should read, and why? Regardless of whether someone else will think you're smart for having read them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought: in your own opinion, what are five-ten books everybody should read, and why? Regardless of whether someone else will think you&#8217;re smart for having read them.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Yurchuk</title>
		<link>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Yurchuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-120</guid>
		<description>This list annoys me. Maybe not the list per se, but the complete lack of methodology for choosing these books. Right off the bat, I don't buy the presumption that the books make you look smart. I divide them roughly into two simple categories: classics and popular literature. (I see a subcategory of the pop lit, strangely enough, that I'd call "books Amazon.com thinks I'd like". Maybe it's just me.) I didn't think that reading books that everyone else is reading (perhaps because Oprah told them to) makes you look smart. 

There are 4 books you didn't read that I can recommend:

Jonathan Strange &#38; Mr Norrell 
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay 
American Gods 
Cryptonomicon 

I enjoyed all these books greatly, although American Gods a little less so.

I know Tolkien's not everyone's cup of tea, but I really liked LOTR, which should replace The Silmarilion. I tried reading that a couple times and could not get through it. It reads like the "begat" section of Genesis, a history of a fantasy world that doesn't even come up in LOTR. I still haven't read The Hobbit, but I'm sure I'll get around to it. I've never read any of the Narnia books, but I became interested after the most recent movie. Of course, my friend Miguel said that Tolkien chastised Lewis for incorporating - I kid you not - Santa Claus in the series. That's probably the point at which I'll bail. 

The other book I'm surprised at is Quicksilver. I've loved every Stephenson I've read (which is most of them), but the reviews on that are just kinda bad. I'd say that's the "looking smart" part of the list (books that are hard to get through), but Cryptonomicon was a great read. Snowcrash, of course, was incredible and far more popular. 

Yes, this was a poorly crafted list. Maybe you could post a solid methodology for a choosing books that make you look smart. That would have real longevity. And you're just the man to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This list annoys me. Maybe not the list per se, but the complete lack of methodology for choosing these books. Right off the bat, I don&#8217;t buy the presumption that the books make you look smart. I divide them roughly into two simple categories: classics and popular literature. (I see a subcategory of the pop lit, strangely enough, that I&#8217;d call &#8220;books Amazon.com thinks I&#8217;d like&#8221;. Maybe it&#8217;s just me.) I didn&#8217;t think that reading books that everyone else is reading (perhaps because Oprah told them to) makes you look smart. </p>
<p>There are 4 books you didn&#8217;t read that I can recommend:</p>
<p>Jonathan Strange &amp; Mr Norrell<br />
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay<br />
American Gods<br />
Cryptonomicon </p>
<p>I enjoyed all these books greatly, although American Gods a little less so.</p>
<p>I know Tolkien&#8217;s not everyone&#8217;s cup of tea, but I really liked LOTR, which should replace The Silmarilion. I tried reading that a couple times and could not get through it. It reads like the &#8220;begat&#8221; section of Genesis, a history of a fantasy world that doesn&#8217;t even come up in LOTR. I still haven&#8217;t read The Hobbit, but I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get around to it. I&#8217;ve never read any of the Narnia books, but I became interested after the most recent movie. Of course, my friend Miguel said that Tolkien chastised Lewis for incorporating - I kid you not - Santa Claus in the series. That&#8217;s probably the point at which I&#8217;ll bail. </p>
<p>The other book I&#8217;m surprised at is Quicksilver. I&#8217;ve loved every Stephenson I&#8217;ve read (which is most of them), but the reviews on that are just kinda bad. I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s the &#8220;looking smart&#8221; part of the list (books that are hard to get through), but Cryptonomicon was a great read. Snowcrash, of course, was incredible and far more popular. </p>
<p>Yes, this was a poorly crafted list. Maybe you could post a solid methodology for a choosing books that make you look smart. That would have real longevity. And you&#8217;re just the man to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://paulbogan.com/2008/05/25/an-untitled-post-about-books-which-i-suppose-is-a-title-of-sorts-just-not-a-very-good-one/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your thoughts on The Time Traveller's Wife? I hated to finish it. Her accuracy in details on Chicago was staggering. She even wrote about the restaurant where Mike and I had our first date. I loved, loved, LOVED this book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your thoughts on The Time Traveller&#8217;s Wife? I hated to finish it. Her accuracy in details on Chicago was staggering. She even wrote about the restaurant where Mike and I had our first date. I loved, loved, LOVED this book.</p>
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